Curse

Ninna · Dec 01, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

I mean signed (as stated)

PlayNC lets you buy GWEN but not extra char slots or PVP packs

Guild Wars store needs to also support PaySafe (like PlayNC)

iriyabran · Dec 01, 2007, 03:37 PM // 15:37

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Originally Posted by Abnaxus

This is a promotion:

http://www.guildwars.com/products/ex...ks/default.php

You know the full price, you know what you buy, and you know that only for a limited time you get a 50% discount. After that, you know you can buy whenever you want, after one month or one year, and what is the price you will have to pay.

exactly
at the store i work in we still offer the merchadise after promotion but at a higher price
and some merchandise is almost always in a promotion because it's not selling as much as other things

can you all just let people play and enjoy the new content
it's not just a cosmetic add like divine aura
i would even compare it to sorrow's furnace
i think such limitation will only ruin the faith in anet even more

as for those who could get cc but didn't because they would use it one time only i think they're right
sellers always work on how to create easy ways for people to purchase
and forcing them to get cc just to buy what they want is not convenient
for example you want to buy a certain cell phone model
there are 2 stores in front of you
one currently has that model the other one doesn't but can provide it within a week
would you rather go and buy it immediately or wait for a week
of course you'll buy it from the other store immediately because it's more convenient for you that way
customer over all after all..i think you get the point
but the way they promoted the item as whole is a total fail and it rages both sides
and the fact that you didn't know exactly what you are getting is even worse

Mavrik · Dec 01, 2007, 04:23 PM // 16:23

/not signed

I spent the required amount.

And if they decide to make this buy-able later it better cost you guys $29.95.

Red Sonya · Dec 01, 2007, 04:25 PM // 16:25

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Originally Posted by Jongo River

You seem to think "promotion" means "exclusive". Products involved in promotions are not automatically bound to never be sold again. Anyone who participated, expecting (without any statement to the fact) that the pack would never be available again, really is an idiot.

Oh and your last line is incorrect. I know for a fact that they won't make *all* those who bought from the store angry.

Really now who's the real idiot here? The ones of us who have the bonus mission pak or the likes of you who doesn't and is whinning for every kind of way to make it possible to get it now that you know what's inside the package. Hardy har har you don't get it nana nana boo boo. Ain't gonna be no extra promotion as you notice Anet doesn't do that or else why aren't there copies of Prophecies Special Collectors editons still for sale in their store huh? Seems to me it'd be pretty easy to sell them since the own the rights to the product. But, they ain't cause they just don't do that to their customers. This promotion was a special special and all you had to do was buy from them in their store and don't give us any of that crap you couldn't get this or your couldn't get that you had 3 months to get what you needed crook rook or steal and yah didn't do it so you're SOL bud pure D SOL. hahahahaha

Croco Clouds · Dec 01, 2007, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Just give us 1 month to buy the BMP for 10$ at the in-store (Get your credit asap), and most of the problems and flaming will be solved.

jezz · Dec 01, 2007, 04:40 PM // 16:40

its a real shame we cant get some response from gaile on this..
because this discussion is going no where..
maybe a definitive answer either way would be nice..then we can all move on and enjoy the game.

Lord Sojar · Dec 01, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by jezz

its a real shame we cant get some response from gaile on this..
because this discussion is going no where..
maybe a definitive answer either way would be nice..then we can all move on and enjoy the game.

I am already enjoying my BMP. *Rubs it in US players who don't have it faces*

I kid!

jezz · Dec 01, 2007, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

I am already enjoying my BMP. *Rubs it in US players who don't have it faces*

I kid!

agreed...i am loving it too..they have done a nice job..and was well worth the wait.

I D E L E T E D I · Dec 01, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

Holy crap you guys are still going on about this xD

But i agree i am loving the BMP. Anet really outdone themselves there.

OFF TOPIC:
Does anyone else agree anet didnt make this themselves :P

Red Sonya · Dec 01, 2007, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by Croco Clouds

Just give us 1 month to buy the BMP for 10$ at the in-store (Get your credit asap), and most of the problems and flaming will be solved.

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haha That crack has really messed up your brain. It should be no less than $30 if they even were to think about a 2nd promotion and really should be $40 for all those that missed out and waited cause they thought it wasn't going to have much or be much. So that's the only way they could re-release it right now is to have it cost more than it cost me an everyone else who paid the promotional price to begin with. But, I really don't think they are going to re-release it again. They haven't any other promotions so I don't see why they would start now. If/When you can't even get a copy of the Special Editon Collectors copy of Prophecies I don't see why you should get this either. <dances around computer chair> Oh an to that person that called me a 5 year old, just remember pal when you point a finger at someone you have 3 more point back at you and making derogative remarks about someone is even more immature and 5 year oldish than them merely being happy they got the product and you didn't. Enjoy your kindergarten.

Caoimhe · Dec 01, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

And the beat goes on...

I don't see what's so difficult about this. I mean, those who got it, got it by playing by the rules of the "game" that Anet set forth. Those who don'r have it really fall into two camps, one which had no easy means to spend the required amount, and the other which chose not to.

Whether or not the 30 quid you chose to spend/might have spent is "useful" to you is irrelevant to the promotion. The promotion rules never stated, "Spend 29.95 useful to you dollars." I'm sorry that some of you chose not to "waste" thirty bucks for this, but that was, indeed, a choice you made based on your perceived value of your potential purchases. I know, as far as I'm concerned, that three more mule - er, character - slots would never go to waste, but that's how I perceive the value of those slots.

This whole discussion has turned into a brouhaha over something so trivially insignificant that we've seen many otherwise respectable, good people resort to name-calling and flames. That's a shame, but I think we would all agree, not a surprise.

To those who were unable to find an easy way to purchase the things they could have to qualify for the BMP, you have my sincere sympathies. Its unbearably frustrating to see what you have to do, only to be blocked by no means to do it.

To those who chose not to spend the money in the online store, <shrug>. You live, you learn.

Will the BMP eventually be available to everyone? Maybe, maybe not. I could care less about that either way. Is it kind of cool to have something that other players don't? Hell yeah. Once upon a time, that was the whole attraction of FoW armour, was it not? High level /rank emotes, too? We've seen how those have devalued over time; perhaps the same will occur with the BMP. In fact, I'd say it's rather likely.

I don't know how this is going to turn out. The promotion worked very well for me; the GW store has never given me a lick of trouble. I'm very fortunate in that regard; I understand that is not the case for many other people.

My idea to fix this is simple: By checking its database for product keys added to accounts within the time frame alloted for the promotion, the Powers-That-Be could, (reasonably, I think) determine whether or not someone purchased enough dollars worth of product to tbe eligible for the BMP. If so, access to the BMP is then granted. I imagine it would take some programming work to query the account database, but I'm not a programmer, so I don't know for sure if it's even feasible. But it is an idea.

I hope those who have the BMP appreicate it, and I hope that those who don't may have an opportunity in the future to participate. It really is a neat diversion.

Loviatar · Dec 01, 2007, 05:24 PM // 17:24

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Originally Posted by Ecomancer

This however, does not entail that the promotion cannot be made available again. Nor does it imply that a promotion regarding the same item cannot be made in a different way. The limited time of course for the bonus pack was the four month period, does this mean that it won't be available ever again? One would think otherwise.

and that is where you are wrong so think again.

not what Gaile says but the official site details from day 1.

no hedging like the usual as this leaves no wiggle room at all.

READ IT CAREFULLY.

ONLY THE EXACT ACCOUNT THAT DOES THE PROMOTION.............PERIOD......not room fro qualifing after the event.

Quote:

The Details
The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store.

Red Sonya · Dec 01, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29

I don't have a problem with them re-releasing it sometime later, but, it had better cost at least $30 and $40 would be more reasonable in my book <dances around computer chair>

bhavv · Dec 01, 2007, 05:31 PM // 17:31

I did and still do however strongly believe that past purchases in the online store should have counted towards the BMP. Or even if it was made available in retail somehow for those that genuinly cant use the online store, like maybe if you bought the pre-order bonus for GWEN you would get acess to the BMP.

Actually thats how they should have done it. To get the BMP you should have needed to buy the pre-order pack. But its done now, so

for those that dont have it and genuinely couldnt use the online store, and rofflecopta for those of you that didnt buy it cause you thought it would suck.

Actually, I would be for selling the BMP now for those of you that missed out on getting it, >>>>>IF<<<<< I can also buy the divine auras I missed from the Prophecies CE.

I pretty much missed proph CE and the first GW halloween

Ecomancer · Dec 01, 2007, 05:36 PM // 17:36

[QUOTE=Loviatar]

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and that is where you are wrong so think again.

not what Gaile says but the official site details from day 1.

no hedging like the usual as this leaves no wiggle room at all.

READ IT CAREFULLY.

ONLY THE EXACT ACCOUNT THAT DOES THE PROMOTION.............PERIOD......not room fro qualifing after the event.

Quote:

The Details
The Bonus Mission Pack will release in November. This promotion is non-transferable and is limited to one per account. The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store.

No one is contesting the above. As per the statement, only those who have fulfilled the requirements for the promotion have the bonus pack unlocked, those that did not, have not.

I think you should have read it thoroughly before asking someone else to.

CHannum · Dec 01, 2007, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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Originally Posted by drago34

A promotion is for a LIMITED time. If you missed the date too bad, it doesn't mean ANet should make it available to everyone... that would defeat the purpose of a promotion to begin with. Now quit

over missing it and just give up already. Anet would end up making all the people who did buy through the store for this angry.

I don't think you understand the definition of the word "promotion" or even understand what the promotion itself was. The closest they came to promising that the BMP would itself be limited is a line in the fine print, "The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store." However, considering the context of that particular sentence, it is reasonably clear that it's not meant to confer exclusivisity of the content, but rather that you can only obtain the free BMP on the same account you used to buy the in-game store content.

The promotion itself was simply, "For a limited time, when you spend $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or through the PlayNC Store, you will get a Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack for free!". That's it. You get the BMP for free by spending $29 in the in-game store, full stop. No promise that it would never be available elsewhere for free or otherwise, no promise that it would be your precious to gloat over for all time, just a simple you can get it for free if you spend $29 in the store.

Again, I really don't understand this attitude. The only people who possibly deserve name calling are those who were so reading comprehension challenged as to read the promotion as conferring exclusive content and then spent $29 not towards a chapter/expansion they would have bought anyhow, but on slots/skill packs they didn't need because they decided on their own accord that something being offered for free was actually worth $29. They're the ones who have issues, they're the ones with poor decision making skills: they assigned an arbitrary value of $29 to an item available for free as part of a limited promotion with no guarantee that said item wouldn't be available after it's launch for $5 or $10 as a separate purchase and are acting like they're entitled to be applauded for their poor judgment

CHannum · Dec 01, 2007, 05:40 PM // 17:40

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Originally Posted by Loviatar

[READ IT CAREFULLY.

ONLY THE EXACT ACCOUNT THAT DOES THE PROMOTION.............PERIOD......not room fro qualifing after the event.

Yes, do read it carefully, and read it in the context of the surrounding find print. All it is saying is that you can't buy something on Uncle Wiggly's account who does need to purchase Nightfall and get it for free on your account. That's it. The imagined promise of permanent exclusivity is just that, imagined.

Ecomancer · Dec 01, 2007, 05:42 PM // 17:42

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Originally Posted by CHannum

I don't think you understand the definition of the word "promotion" or even understand what the promotion itself was. The closest they came to promising that the BMP would itself be limited is a line in the fine print, "The Bonus Pack will only be available to the exact account that fulfills this promotion in the in-game store or the exact account on which a qualifying Guild Wars product is activated that has been purchased in the PlayNC store." However, considering the context of that particular sentence, it is reasonably clear that it's not meant to confer exclusivisity of the content, but rather that you can only obtain the free BMP on the same account you used to buy the in-game store content.

The promotion itself was simply, "For a limited time, when you spend $29 USD (€26/£17) or more in the Guild Wars In-Game Store or through the PlayNC Store, you will get a Guild Wars Bonus Mission Pack for free!". That's it. You get the BMP for free by spending $29 in the in-game store, full stop. No promise that it would never be available elsewhere for free or otherwise, no promise that it would be your precious to gloat over for all time, just a simple you can get it for free if you spend $29 in the store.

Again, I really don't understand this attitude. The only people who possibly deserve name calling are those who were so reading comprehension challenged as to read the promotion as conferring exclusive content and then spent $29 not towards a chapter/expansion they would have bought anyhow, but on slots/skill packs they didn't need because they decided on their own accord that something being offered for free was actually worth $29. They're the ones who have issues, they're the ones with poor decision making skills: they assigned an arbitrary value of $29 to an item available for free as part of a limited promotion with no guarantee that said item wouldn't be available after it's launch for $5 or $10 as a separate purchase and are acting like they're entitled to be applauded for their poor judgment

I could not have said it so eloquently, but thats exactly what I was trying to get across to people. As is the case however, the height of ignorance shown by many surprises me.

Red Sonya · Dec 01, 2007, 05:46 PM // 17:46

But Gaile made comments afterwards about this promotion and statings of "why would we do such a thing after doing this?" you'll just have to lookup gaile posts to find it. She pretty much put the nail on the head that this was a "one time thing get it now or never get it".

Jongo River · Dec 01, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

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Originally Posted by Red Sonya

Really now who's the real idiot here? The ones of us who have the bonus mission pak or the likes of you who doesn't and is whinning for every kind of way to make it possible to get it now that you know what's inside the package. Hardy har har you don't get it nana nana boo boo. Ain't gonna be no extra promotion as you notice Anet doesn't do that or else why aren't there copies of Prophecies Special Collectors editons still for sale in their store huh? Seems to me it'd be pretty easy to sell them since the own the rights to the product. But, they ain't cause they just don't do that to their customers. This promotion was a special special and all you had to do was buy from them in their store and don't give us any of that crap you couldn't get this or your couldn't get that you had 3 months to get what you needed crook rook or steal and yah didn't do it so you're SOL bud pure D SOL. hahahahaha

This is what gets me about some of you guys, you don't read, you just assume. All this dribble is based entirely on your own nasty little view of the world.

To pick up your "point" - they can't put the CE's in their store, most of what made them CE's were physical items (big box, glossy art books, mouse mats, etc). They could only add the auras/mini-pets, which would breach what they did actually say about *those* items being exclusive to the CE's.

This pack is more like the bonus weapon pack used to sell the re-release of Prophecies - of course, they could never put that in the store, could they?

Last laugh - I have the pack.